Joyous Expansion Podcast Transcript W.T. Hamilton, Mindset Coach, and Author – How The Mindset For Success Can Work For You!

Brett Dupree

Hello, W.T., and welcome to my podcast.

WT Hamilton

Hey, Brett, great to be here.

Brett Dupree

It’s great to have you. So, I take it you’re an author?

WT Hamilton

Yeah, I’ve been known to write a book or two in my spare time.

Brett Dupree

What got you interested in writing?

WT Hamilton

Initially I was learning about the law of attraction. A lot of it wasn’t really jiving for me. So I started journaling, writing things that I was learning that things that were working and then things that weren’t working.

WT Hamilton

Basically, that was going to be something I could give my kids to give them a jumpstart. And then my mom was writing as well. And she said she was going to write a book about her experiences. And I told her about stuff that I wrote and turned out that became our first book. And that led me to doing all the different types of writing that I’m doing now.

Brett Dupree

Oh, interesting. What about the law of Attraction? Wasn’t working for you.

WT Hamilton

Was it too spiritual for me and not enough logic? I was kind of looking at it from because I make a practical, logical type of person and kind of skeptical as well. So, I had to really see how does it work? What’s the real method behind the secret type of the flashy stuff? What how does it really work? How can I really take something, focus on it and put action to it so I can achieve whatever it is I’m trying to achieve?

Brett Dupree

You’re not a big believer in sending your intention onto universe and the universe, rearranging everything it can to hand it to you?

WT Hamilton

No, I know that’s what happens. But my part is I don’t like to just to sit back. I like to have some action because of how I look at it, as if I could just think everything and it just kind of magically works out for me. I’m going to be bored. I want to feel like I’m doing something as well. So, I really look at it as how do I use it to really keep me focused on the goal that I said that I wanted to do that. I can have daily actions, weekly actions, monthly actions to get me there.

Brett Dupree

So, I’m curious, what got you interested into the law of attraction, into personal development?

WT Hamilton

What happened was I was working this job I really loved. Everything was great. I had a good high position in that job, just enjoyed it, had a lot of fun. And then the stock market crash in 2009. Company went bankrupt. So, then I got hired on through an investment firm that took it over. And they hired some consultants and they hired me to help them build it back up. But instead of doing the job I was doing, which was production manager and planning and hiring and firing and training people.

WT Hamilton

I had to start doing sales, which I didn’t have any experience in. And so, I had to learn how to do sales. And as I was learning how to do sales, some of the things that they were doing, I just didn’t feel comfortable with. It wasn’t I didn’t like the way I was making my money. I didn’t like the things that I had to say because, you know, a lot of times I felt like I had to lie to people to get them to work with us or do whatever because of the way that the new place managed.

WT Hamilton

It was completely different from how we used to do things. I started to feel like I need to find a better way to do things in a better ethical code for myself. And then at that time, my mom had seen the movie The Secret. And so, she turned me on to that.

Brett Dupree

Did you jump into the secret and then research more about the law of attraction?

WT Hamilton

Because the secret is more like a commercial for the law of attraction. It didn’t really show us how. It just told us what you could do, but not how to make it work. So, when we started researching, we found this book called The Master Key, and it was a crazy book for me. It was written like 100 years ago. And in a language that they talked in the 100 years ago, I had a hard time resonating with it.

WT Hamilton

And so that forced me to really look at, you know, why is it that I’m having such a hard time to understand this stuff and other people? It seems to just click. So that’s where I started to really start trying to see what could I do? Like what cool. Can I set and see if that works? And I was finding little things were easy and they would manifest. But the big things were a more of a struggle.

Brett Dupree

So basically, you’re saying you were able to get the parking space but not the dream job. Exactly.

WT Hamilton

Yeah. Little things were working out great. Yeah. Anything that big. And I understand now why. But at that time, it was a kind of a struggle to really understand what their hurdles were and how to get around them.

Brett Dupree

Obviously leads to my next questions. What were the hurdles?

WT Hamilton

A lot of their hurdles really was in believing that you can have it that you deserve it and you’re worthy of it. LA Times, I would say to myself, yeah, this is what I want is what I want to have happen, but then believe that I deserve it. And I didn’t believe I was worthy of it. So it was like a fantasy is like a wish. But for me to be able to make that transition also meant that I had to look at myself and see.

WT Hamilton

So, if I want to make one hundred thousand dollars a year and I’m making fifty thousand dollars, what is it I got to do to get to that one thousand dollar level? And then what I found was a lot of it was mindset was my skills, my habits. They all had to change. I had to do some work to get those to change. And that part they’d already tell you in the law of attraction because it’s not as sexy as just saying, hey, just focus on things and see affirmations and it’ll happen for you.

Brett Dupree

So, what changes in your life did you notice once you start removing these hurdles?

WT Hamilton

The big thing for me was really building up confidence and then learning how to give. Myself, permission to do things instead of waiting for people to give me permission. At one point when I was working for that other company. They weren’t paying me enough money. They weren’t paying me as much money as I was making before the company went bankrupt. And they were always promising they were going to look after us after things picked up. But every time things would pick up, when it was getting better and better, they were still holding us back.

WT Hamilton

I accepted that for a long time until the one year. It was just before Christmas. And I was looking at my money and I was realizing that I don’t have enough money to buy my kids the presents that they wanted. I started to feel really like a failure, not because I couldn’t buy them the presents, but because I allowed someone else to tell me what I was worth and how high I could go and what I could have. And that’s when I made that switch and realized I got to take charge and responsible for where I am at, not point fingers at other people and learn how to fix it.

WT Hamilton

And the only way that I could fix it was to give myself permission to move forward and permission to take chances and learn and grow.

Brett Dupree

What changes in your life, did you see after you did that?

WT Hamilton

Immediately, once I started focusing on that mindset. I started finding solutions to my problems instead of excuses and reasons for my problems. Once I was able to start finding solutions, that was opening up the doors. And as that happened, I start feeling more confident, believing more in power, of focusing on what I want and always looking forward instead of looking back and complaining.

Brett Dupree

What actual changes that you see in your life?

WT Hamilton

So, the actual change is one of the things I was able to find a better opportunity. So, I was able to leave that company basically got a job with this other company. And because of how things were structured, I ended up being a consultant for them, which really opened a whole new world of independence and being able to work from phone and making my own hours. And it was really from taking that leap of faith of saying I’m worthy of more and I can do more.

WT Hamilton

And so, I went and I started looking for exactly what I was, the situation and the circumstances that were going to work the best from myself.

Brett Dupree

What got you into wanting to share your story and help other people through stories?

WT Hamilton

What I found was with a lot of different things in my personal development. It’s all about really resonating, connecting with people that have been through it and have figured out different little tricks and techniques. When I was listening to other people, some of them I couldn’t connect with and resonate with, and then there’d be the odd person, the odd story that here that would just a light bulb would go off. So I know that is very important for everybody, no matter who you are or what you’re going through to share your story, because someone is going to be really be able to relate to exactly what you’re talking about or what you’ve been through.

WT Hamilton

And if you don’t tell that story, that person might never get over that hump because that your voice might be the only voice that they’re really going to be able to click with to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Brett Dupree

So, what got you into running to write it into a story or a parable rather than telling your story?

WT Hamilton

As I started writing the one chapter, books are reading different things of experiences. What I went through, I was finding that because I had done Toastmasters as well as find that there’s a power in telling a story as a story, that you remember it more when it’s a story than when it’s just here’s the facts. So having been able to build mind pictures, build atmosphere and make a story memorable, have some memorable sentences in the way that you structure things found that was so much more effective, and they kind of start to fall in love with being able to take somebody on that journey.

Brett Dupree

What has been like promoting your book?

WT Hamilton

Promoting the book is it’s been incredibly challenging because two reasons. One, because a one-chapter book. Something different. So, I always have to explain to people what a one-chapter book is and know why that’s cool and the benefits of it. And then just being able to get out there and got to be the cheerleader for your own product, to be the cheerleader for your own book, whatever it is that you’re doing.

WT Hamilton

And you must do that every single day. And you must do that this month, next month, the month after. It’s not like when you hire someone to do a campaign for you. Maybe they run a two-week campaign or a three-week campaign. This is something you’ve got to do 24/7, and there’s really no end to it.

Brett Dupree

Are you finding that your techniques have helped you through this because of me able to focus?

WT Hamilton

What happens is I’m able to set small goals and big goals, and you’ll always find that I have something that I’m looking forward to, something I’m working toward and doing to reach more people and to really just help more people with solutions and with finding how they can do the things that I’m doing as well.

Brett Dupree

What have you like most about being an author?

WT Hamilton

What I like the most, really, it is launching the books. Being able to talk to people and get the feedback from them on what they liked and even what they don’t like, so they can tweak it for the next one. But it’s really that interaction with people and the feedback. And just you once you’ve written a book and you’re able to get it out there, you start to meet a lot of cool people and you are finding a lot of likeminded people that. Kind of unexpectedly.

Brett Dupree

That’s cool, I’ve noticed that, too. My podcasts. Also, something I noticed that this around podcast, Eighty five and 80 interviews just going through this process has been a huge personal growth process for me. Stepping into being the role of a podcast was promoting all the fun stuff. So as an author going through the promotions, how have you grown as a person?

WT Hamilton

So I’m constantly growing because I am constantly learning how to. I want to be authentic the way that I am. I like to have a lot of fun. I like to joke around. But also, I’m learning that you have to have a certain amount of professionalism for people to take you seriously. So, it’s trying to find that blend. I’m always kind of working on that blend of being true to who I am, but also presenting it in a way that people are going to understand how that can benefit them.

WT Hamilton

It’s a real dance, a real kind of balance or battle

Brett Dupree

To be authentic as well and in your marketing, you can also be very vulnerable. Have you noticed that and how you push through it if that’s been an issue?

WT Hamilton

When I was first doing it, I was trying to I think I was trying to be too professional to cookie cutter. And it wasn’t till I was really started to talk about some of the struggles that I’ve been through and just being as relatable and honest as a can be. That’s when things really started to take off. But it’s still hard for me because I’m still kind of guarded with how much I want to talk about, especially when it comes to things like I don’t call them failures, I call them setbacks.

WT Hamilton

But when you do have setbacks and you have struggles, sometimes it’s hard to talk about the big struggles that you go through. I try to get through that and share that because I know it helps people. Yes, people want to see that you can be successful, but they also have to understand that it’s work and it’s a challenge. And you’re going to have risks since the more risk you take, the more chances you have to have setbacks and then have to figure out what you’re going to do and try again.

Brett Dupree

That’s one thing I noticed when I was promoting myself as a coach and as a podcast host, much at the beginning of trying to create this aura of success. But I noticed that just almost made everything feel like a burden because I had to work so hard keeping up. I don’t know a lie, but almost a lie of omission.

WT Hamilton

I know at one point, I think maybe a few years ago, that was more of things that if you’re working with a mentor or a coach, they would push you into. But I think that philosophy has gone away, and people are just really trying to be as vulnerable and honest and open as they can about what they’re doing and where they’re at and where they’re trying to go.

Brett Dupree

And I think too many people are renting Lamborghinis and hiring hot chicks and to shoot in those YouTube videos back in the day.

WT Hamilton

Yeah, exactly.

Brett Dupree

What kind of reception have you gained from your book?

WT Hamilton

It’s been kind of a lot of different reception. So sometimes, like when I meet people that don’t know me at all, haven’t seen me on social media or anything, and I tell them that I’ve done like a one chapter book where the whole book is just one chapter along solving one business problem at a time. They’ll say, Oh, that’s cool idea. That sounds interesting with their words, but with their face, they’re giving me a look of know, are you crazy, man?

WT Hamilton

Or what do you what do you think? And this is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard. So, I have that. But then on the flip side of it, I get reviews and get a lot of great reviews of the latest book. The Harsh Truth. I won an award for it’s been a real rollercoaster of reception. Some people are really into it. Get it right away. Other people not sure and have to kind of do a little bit of work to even just get them me even interested in hearing about it.

WT Hamilton

But it’s all part of when you’re doing something, you’re being authentic and you’re really focused on helping a small group of people, then you’re not going to resonate with everybody, but you’re going to resonate with the right people. And I think if you can get that mindset that you don’t have to please everybody, just the people that really need what you’re selling or what you’re sharing, then it’s OK. You can be OK with I can post a video and it only gets 20 views. I’m fine with I can post a video. Only extreme views.

Brett Dupree

I’m fine with that even fine if you get one view and one comment. That’s mean.

WT Hamilton

Yes. So, what I find is it depends on what the comment is. So, if it’s constructive, they’re telling me even if it’s mean, but if it has some constructive ism in it. Then I can take from it that, OK, this person is telling me if I did this differently, next time I’ll make a better video or write a better book. But if it’s just they’re just being mean just to be mean. I just kind of ignore it.

WT Hamilton

But the hard part is to be able take the emotions out of any criticism and they really look at what they’re saying and seeing if you can find the constructive criticism in there, because the constructive criticism is always free advice of I would’ve liked your book better if he had done this.

Brett Dupree

A lot of people out there who want to write a book, what advice would you give them?

WT Hamilton

So, the biggest advice, I think, is just not worrying too much about how good your book is going to be, because the more you write, the better you’re going to get at it. It’s the same as the more that you do anything in life, the better you’re going to get at it. But you’re never going to get good at it if you don’t do the first one. I would say just write the first book. I wouldn’t go crazy on spending tons of money on it, but I would just get.

WT Hamilton

That first book out there. Get some feedback and then you can tweak it. You can do second editions in third editions and the more that you write, the more you’ll learn what your style is and how you want to present how you want your whole book to flow. And you start to get better at writing and telling your story. But I know a lot of people are afraid to even do the first one because you get judged. They once the book is out there, it’s out there forever and that can be very scary for people.

Brett Dupree

One of the favorite advices I’ve ever heard, I believe, is from the co-founder from NLP listening to one of his books is the book you released is 100 percent better than the book. You don’t.

WT Hamilton

Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. And the thing is, I mean, you probably have a good story. It might not be the greatest story ever written, but it’s probably a good story and can be tweaked. And if you’re open to it, you can get an editor and the editor will help you and they’ll make some changes. Some of the changes you may not like, but they’ll help you with it. If so, it just is really all about how much you want to invest in your first book. But I think people get too bogged down in trying to make it perfect and then it never gets past their final draft.

Brett Dupree

Do you have any success stories or like awesome interviews of how your book changed somebody and helped somebody?

WT Hamilton

Because I have a lot of techniques and advice in the books. So, I was talking to one of my friends and I had read the book, The Luckypreneur. It’s really about network marketing. And so, and she said that once she read, because in it I talk about how it basically like what we’ve just talked about, how to deal with criticism and how to look at success. So she said once she read that, it helped her to really go out there and be fearless in how she approaches people and not worry so much about, because a lot of times she was worried about what people are going to think or what they’re going to say or how they’re going to react to her.

WT Hamilton

That book was able to help her to see that you can just go out there and be yourself and have fun and connect with people in a genuine way instead of always trying to get out there and just hand out your business card. And so, as she read through that and she started practicing that, she said it really made a big impact on how she was able to network more successfully.

Brett Dupree

That’s very cool. We’re coming to the end of our time together. And one thing I like to ask my guests is to do a one minute of motivation. You can think of this as if you have a time machine and you going back in time to your eight year old self and you want to convey the information you need to live a happy and joyful life. But unfortunately, your plopped back into the future in one minute, or you can think of it as events in your entire life message your entire life purpose into a minute.

Brett Dupree

So, you’re ready.

WT Hamilton

Okay. Well, the thing that I would tell myself is just believe in yourself more than you believe in a opinion of other people, because the more that you can see yourself being successful, the more successful you’re going to be. And you’re going to have some hard times where nobody is going to care what you’re doing and you’re going to feel like you’re completely on your own because you’re never on your own, because as long as you have yourself, you have more than enough to strive and get to where you want to get to.

WT Hamilton

You just must keep on going. And it is all going to work out. That’s the advice that I would give myself if I could go back in time.

Brett Dupree

Thank you so much, W.T., for coming on my podcast. I very much enjoyed listening to your story on how the law of attraction wasn’t fitting you. Instead of just ditching it, you’re able to look into it and go underneath and notice what didn’t work and building the confidence and the acceptance that you need to be able to go out and do what you want and leave that job and to find a one that’s better and more fulfilling and fitting to you.

Brett Dupree

And then also to take that extra step into writing a story, because since the dawn of time, we have taught are lessons in our history through stories. So, it’s just an amazing way to connect with people. So, thank you so much for coming on my podcast and thank you so much for what you do for this world.

WT Hamilton

And I want to thank you for having me on your podcast. I really enjoyed it and I really loved your questions. Got me thinking on the spot. And it was it was great to be able to share in this way.

Brett Dupree

May your day be special.

Inspirational Life Coach Brett Dupree (266 Posts)

Internationally certified life coach through inviteCHANGE, Brett Dupree envisions a powerful future in which people live in pure joy. He believes that there is a great transformation just around the corner and he coaches people on how to use passion and inspiration to ride the powerful wave of awakening that is sweeping this world. Brett has dedicated his life to the study of personal empowerment. He believes that real lasting change comes from changing from the inside out. Working with you one-on-one, Brett helps you listen to your inner voice to reach your goals with passion, inspiration and ease . He creates a sacred space that allows you clients to bask in the joy of creation. He will help you find peace and balance in their lives so you can transform yourself into a self leader. Using the power of intentions, the Law of Attraction and his deep loving powerful heart he helps his clients gain miraculous results.


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