[00:00:28.940] – Brett Dupree
Today is a special seventy-fifth episode extravaganza ganza ganza. Part of me wants to sing the Jamie Foxx song extravaganza, but unfortunately, I think I’m the only person who likes that song or one of them is one of those songs.
[00:00:46.670] – Brett Dupree
You ever had an album and you love a song. And it’s your favorite song on the album. But that’s not the big one that everyone knows. That’s mine from Jamie Foxx. His album is Extravaganza. I love that song.
[00:01:00.710] – Brett Dupree
I had one too many drinks and ended up in the embassy. Yeah. You never heard of it. The other one that is saved for someone else by Az Yet. Love that song. But anyway, this is not about songs.
[00:01:12.800] – Brett Dupree
This is about extravaganza. It’s about celebrating 75 episodes of the Joyous Expansion Podcast roughly just over two years in the making. June 2nd is, I believe when I first released my first three episodes of that disappointing hoping for 20 views per episode, ended up getting less than 20 periods and downloads and being very disappointed and then continuing and then faltering and then re-energizing at the beginning of last year. And so far, so good.
[00:01:45.710] – Brett Dupree
I mean, I’m having I’m not on one hundred and four, two hundred and seven like I plan. I still missed a couple of weeks or so but I have seventy-five and honestly only this is my fourth one of just being me talking. I think that’s pretty good. I’m going to celebrate that accomplishment. Hurray! I’m very proud of myself. I’ve gotten decently far in my podcasting and I’ve learned a lot.
[00:02:10.030] – Brett Dupree
And so this podcast is mostly celebrating and answering no questions anyone’s ever asked of me of what it’s like to have seventy-five episodes of a podcast. What I’ve learned and how I make my podcasts. I remember two years ago or just over two years ago when I decided to start a podcast.
[00:02:26.930] – Brett Dupree
Somebody put on Facebook something along the lines of wanting podcasts for their podcast network. And I thought to myself, well, I remember a long time ago, someone said that I had a nice voice and that they could hear me on the radio someday. And they you know what? I should finally start podcasts.
[00:02:45.320] – Brett Dupree
I want to interview people. And I definitely want to showcase people’s stories. Talk about empathy with the idea that because when I listen to stories, I like stories where I get to hear mostly normal people going through normal things if you will.
[00:03:01.190] – Brett Dupree
A lot of this tends from, well, Albert Menza. He is a very inspirational, motivational speaker and he has a fabulous story. But for me, that story isn’t very relatable because he grew up in Africa and had nothing and they used to pass around one piece of chicken and he only got one chicken and he used to save it for a week, which sounds disgusting. And then he made it to the United States where he had 20 dollars. And with that 20 dollars, all he had, he bought an entire bucket of chicken and underwear because he never owned underwear before.
[00:03:32.570] – Brett Dupree
And he eats so much KFC that he got sick because the thought of eating an entire bucket of chicken was just amazing to him. And then he won the world champion, public speaking of first freakin year doing it. And while that’s an inspirational story and I’m sure it’s inspirational, some people honestly, I did not find that that inspiring. I’m not going to discount that story.
[00:03:51.140] – Brett Dupree
I don’t want to discount this very it’s a great story. It’s a great speech. But for me, when I listen to and I thought about it, it wasn’t a story that made me think that I could do it. But then I was listening to this other podcast of this author. I forgot the podcast, man, but he was talking about how he was a 19-year overnight success. Basically, he’s been writing and pushing for 19 years until finally one of his books made it and then he exploded and he became an overnight success.
[00:04:19.730] – Brett Dupree
That’s his joke. That story spoke to me. It spoke to me because I’m somebody who’s been pushing now for, I think, really solid nine years at this. But I believe I started in 2008, says 12 years of wanting to be a motivational, inspirational speaker and a toastmaster for ten of them. I have not made much progress in that.
[00:04:42.440] – Brett Dupree
Honestly, I’m just not close to where I want to be. It’s still not making me money and doesn’t have a lot of clients. I don’t even know if I want to be a coach anymore. The head coaching being something people forced me to do because they really want my coaching. I rather do the speaking because I love inspiring people most of all and being part of the rah rah and helping people live their lives in a big setting more. And that’s why I’m more focusing on the Church of Awesome than that.
[00:05:06.020] – Brett Dupree
But that basically the reason why that spoke to me is that someone who got rejected or rejected and dealt with all of those issues and he was able to push through it. And so I thought, I want my podcast to be a podcast where I interview people going through normal life. They could be trying to achieve great things, which is fine. A lot of people want to achieve great things or they just want to do normal things, like just being a psychic.
[00:05:30.830] – Brett Dupree
I mean, psychic. Maybe you make like six. You do get to be six figures or. Store or just you know, I’m talking about not going out and being like a huge Tony Robbins. But someone who just wants to build a career doing something they like. And honest. I’m willing to speak to anyone who has a story of wanting to do something in their life, even if it just raises the best family. I would love to talk to a mom about what it’s like. I am sure someone needs to hear that, because my idea was if I get enough stories, the right people will listen to them and inspire them. Or if you listen to enough of my podcasts, enough of the people stories will resonate with you and help keep you going. Help keep you going on your path, whatever that is. That was the idea of my podcast. That’s what I wanted.
[00:06:19.120] – Brett Dupree
The problem was the name at first because I felt the joyous expansion podcast didn’t really convey that as well. And I still don’t I don’t think it does. It just fits with my old SEO and I couldn’t think of a better name. This is why at the beginning of all my podcasts, I started out with Welcome to my podcast because that’s because for the first, I think, five or six episodes, I did not settle on a name.
[00:06:47.560] – Brett Dupree
The thing I learned from that is really doesn’t start until you have your vision down by the same time start. I probably should talk to somebody, maybe a business consultant of some kind, or when my coaches friends to just bounce something off of. I was how I was just doing something like that. Maybe your therapist. I don’t know someone to bounce ideas about what you want to convey. And so and suggested the jury’s expansion podcast. I think that person was thinking more about marketing. But I can only almost want to push past Joyous Expansion. I mean, it’s great.
[00:07:19.990] – Brett Dupree
I love it. I love my book and everything. But I think that’s just one aspect of what I do and who I am. And I almost feel like I’m outgrowing that. So if you were thinking of starting a podcast, I would think of getting your vision down. Now I’m going to keep the Joyous Expansion podcast. At least til 100 episodes. I don’t plan on stopping anytime soon. I like it. So first there was a struggle. I think if you’ve been following me for a while, you’ve heard me talk about the struggle at the start of the beginning, not getting the lessons I wanted.
[00:07:52.900] – Brett Dupree
I thought 60 listens at the beginning was me being low. I thought if my friends and family listen, that’s about 10 people easily. And if they each of them, the people who I did it sends it out to them. And 10 people of them would listen to it. That’s six. That’s just below. And when it turned out, I believe, was 18. If I remember, it was under 20. I went to 20 to listen and it was under 20.
[00:08:19.240] – Brett Dupree
And I was devastated. That hurt a lot. I almost quit at that point, but I decided to push through it. But it was hard as hard to find guests at first. It was very hard finding people, getting them to commit, and pushing it down. That took a lot out of me. I don’t like asking for help. I hate the part of looking for guests.
[00:08:39.950] – Brett Dupree
I’m just not really good at putting myself out there. I do not take rejection well, and then editing. At first, I felt like a drag. It felt like a huge drag because it takes so long to edit. It takes at least three minutes per one minute of audio, sometimes longer, depending on the guest of the if the guest uses a lot of Ums and Aw’s and So’s and I,I,I,I,I. And you know what I means. At first, I try to keep some of them in just to try to keep the person’s essence.
[00:09:09.560] – Brett Dupree
But one person was like, Oh man, I said this so many times, I thought, you know, I’d rather have my guests sound like the best. And that’s when I made a switch in my editing as well, was I did two things. I decided that I wanted to be a podcast where my guests sound their best and I’ll do their best possible and getting their many of those um’s and aw’s and their so’s. Those double words are parts where they’re kind of rambling because a lot of times when people are talking, they will say something and then they will say that same thing again. Because you know you know that time when. Yeah. That time when I went out to the store, you know, stuff like that, I just get really, you know, what time went.
[00:09:48.650] – Brett Dupree
So they sound like they are sure and confident. And I decide that’s what I want. For me, it’s a service that I provide. And then I made editing a game. I tried to think about how much time can I take away from the interview. Sometimes it’s up to 12 minutes of just getting rid of the um’s, ah’s, so’s, i,i,i,i,i, and you know, remember when you know you remember when you go to the store, sometimes it’s like 12 minutes. And I feel so satisfied that I eliminated that much filler. Also, get rid of breaths. I don’t know why it is only listening to me breathe. When I edited my book, which took freakin forever, I was like, I do not want to hear me breathe.
[00:10:28.550] – Brett Dupree
Yeah. What was I saying? Oh yeah. So that’s how I got the editing down is changing my mindset by it. And I use gaming, a programmable mouse. If whatever you’re doing, if you’re going to edit, use a programmable mouse. Use the left buttons. They’re great. One for the lead. Two for four is for me, silent. You just press it. And this makes does make that go faster. But switching my mindset, the editing, and then switching my mindset on the views, I decided since I am going to be a smaller podcast and I am a toastmaster. The thing that I love about Toastmasters is watching people grow, watching people step out of their comfort zone.
[00:11:07.970] – Brett Dupree
I love watching ice breakers, ice breakers, the first speech in Toastmasters, and I absolutely love watching that, especially from the people who are most afraid. There is this one person. Her name is Basia. Her icebreaker was one of my most proud moments in Toastmasters because it took like eight months to maybe a year to get her to do it. And it was just constant, just trying to build help build up her confidence. And then when she finally did it, I just that was great.
[00:11:33.990] – Brett Dupree
So I thought to myself, I could be a podcast service. People who don’t necessarily get their voices heard. The newbies. I decided that even if I become gigantic somehow in the joyous expansion podcasts or my next podcast gets one that gets five thousand ten thousand one hundred thousand views or something like that, I still would want to dedicate at least one interview a month to a newbie, to somebody new, to somebody who this is their first podcast.
[00:12:01.700] – Brett Dupree
I’ll try to get those as well because those people deserve to be heard. And I enjoy them. I enjoy learning about them. And that’s another thing that I did as well. I shifted my perspective on the interviews. I think that’s made my interviews a lot better. Shifting on, getting to know them, learning their story instead of interviewing them. And that came a lot in time. Some of the interviews early on kind of got away for me.
[00:12:25.760] – Brett Dupree
There’s one that I particularly do not like. I won’t say which one, because that’s rude. But honestly, it’s by far my least favorite interview. After that interview, I changed my email saying, I don’t want an infomercial. I don’t want an infomercial. I want your story. Oh, and who you are and work on that. And when I get someone interested in my podcasts, I send them an email. And this email has all the information that someone could ever need to try to be on my podcast because people keep on asking me questions. And I don’t want to answer questions all day and send emails because I’m draining and hard. And so I have this really long email that answers all the questions that I can honestly.
[00:13:07.160] – Brett Dupree
I can tell who’s read it and who hasn’t. By the people who are ready for the one-minute motivation that’s at the end, which is an idea. I had to see if I can promote it, you know, make those little tiny videos. I got the idea when I did explaindio, which had a little tiny video that put on Instagram, I thought maybe one of these will go viral. None of them ever have.
[00:13:25.520] – Brett Dupree
But I still like them and they’re not as successful as I’d liked. Might as well call this the not as successful as I like podcast because nothing I’ve done has been as successful as I liked. But I still like doing the minute the motivation thing. I said at the end of each episode about going back to the eight-year-old self has been a blessing and a curse.
[00:13:43.940] – Brett Dupree
So something I came up within the first episode and decided to keep ongoing. So it sounds like I had a plan. And sometimes that’s causes confusion where people are literally talking to their eight-year-old self. And I don’t want that. I have that in the email. But the ones who are still surprised and end up talking to their eight-year-old selves are the ones who I know didn’t read. But that’s fine. That’s fine. That long email.
[00:14:07.550] – Brett Dupree
So that’s is something I also recommend is having an email that spells everything out and the people who will read will read. So those are my basic idea of how going through my podcasts and getting guests to sort of way. One of the best things I did was something called podcast guests dot com. And becoming featured on the email gave me 50 prospects. And of those 50 prospects, I think at least 18 people came from that. But that gave me 18 prospects of these, you know, a bunch of people to email and then a bunch of people to do so. When it came to emailing other people are asking my friends and stuff. It just made that not become daunting because you want to get ahead in your interviews. That’s one thing I really like about the recording. I use Zencastr.com. It’s good now. At first, it kind of sucked because there’s automatic post-production and automatic post-production. Sometimes we get to the point where they start overlapping, but they finally fixed that. Finally kind of worth it. The twenty dollars a month.
[00:15:08.690] – Brett Dupree
Gets thirty dollars a month because he uses Dropbox up one drive, which annoys me how they switch to One Drive one day because I will save me ten dollars a month. So don’t use Dropbox and wonder. I was just part of my Microsoft O365 subscription. So Zencastr has been fine, especially lately at first. Also, there is a problem getting people having good audio and a lot of my early audios weren’t the best.
[00:15:33.780] – Brett Dupree
And that probably didn’t help me as well. Podcastguests.com is something I highly recommend. If you’re just ready, first starting out and you want to find guests, go in there and messaging people. People there want to be on podcasts. And so they’ll message you back. I do have a lot of spiritual friends and done seminars and stuff. So I asked a bunch of those people, try it. I like doing them in bunches so I can just feel relaxed.
[00:15:59.940] – Brett Dupree
I’m going to start my next bunch after this one and try to get it because right now I have. It’s June I half through the end of August did. And I want to get through the end of December by August because of football. And it just makes things easier that I if I don’t have to, I can slow down a little bit.
[00:16:18.420] – Brett Dupree
So I highly suggest doing that. Everything I’ve read said he should be a week behind in your podcast, meaning that this podcast that I’m putting on now that I’m doing today should have been in last week. That’s a great idea. I’m very bad at that. Mostly do the editing because would have to edit twice maybe one these Sundays when I have nothing to do, I’ll do a double edit and then get to the point where I am a week behind by the same time.
[00:16:41.580] – Brett Dupree
It does it feels fresh when I do my beginning part. But that’s not a bad idea. It’s not a bad idea. So now I want to talk about the interviews and the things I’ve learned from people. I mean, that’s the thing I like most about my podcast is interviewing people and how much better I am at it.
[00:16:56.520] – Brett Dupree
And one thing I always remember from Aventure Time, Jake, the Dog saying sucking at something is the first step to being kind of sort of good at it. But that’s very true. My early interviews are kind of stilted. I felt almost overwhelmed. And you don’t realize how thankful people are to be on your podcast. The people who show up on my podcast are thankful to be there.
[00:17:20.300] – Brett Dupree
And that’s something I always had to get through my head, especially the people who are introverts who are harder to get them to say things, as are the people who can talk. You ask him a question and they can talk ten minutes and they’re talking about their story. I don’t mind because I’m riveted. I love listening to people’s stories. And then there are people who ask him a question and the answer in under a minute. Those can be difficult and trying.
[00:17:41.640] – Brett Dupree
In fact, those are the ones that are generally around twenty-something minutes because after a while I don’t. I run out of questions to ask and towards the end I want to pivot to what they do. They could have a chance to sell themselves because I still want people to know I have a chance to talk about what they do, not just their story. That part of you know, when I first started my podcast, it took till Episode 20 something before I literally emailed it out, before I just tagged them on Facebook because most my first people were Facebook friends.
[00:18:09.570] – Brett Dupree
I was very bad at sending it to people. I was almost ashamed of it. Yeah, I was almost ashamed of my first few podcasts, but I feel better about it now. Feel better about it now.
[00:18:21.120] – Brett Dupree
Started to feel really proud of it, mostly after talking to so many amazing people. The stories that really surprised me or the ones that I never expected. Evan Safford, that was one of my favorite interviews in the sense of when I started the podcast, I thought I get it mostly coaches or something like that. But this was a guy who just was a musician. He was weird. He was out there, but he was inspiring in his own way.
[00:18:46.860] – Brett Dupree
And that was awesome. That’s all my favorite interviews its also one of the weirdest interviews I ever did. But this is a guy who is living his life and doing his best and learning, and he’s hustling.
[00:18:57.300] – Brett Dupree
And it’s awesome. It’s freaking awesome. I’m not saying my other interviews aren’t awesome. Nothing that surprised me is how many people smoke crack or did hard drugs. A lot of people who I didn’t expect having issues like that. You know, sometimes it’s helped me with my personal biases, especially when it comes to really attractive women. Sometimes I just think their lives are easy because I grew up on sitcoms honestly.
[00:19:26.610] – Brett Dupree
And so listening to these ridiculously beautiful women, talking about being sex trafficked or being drug addicts, being like almost committing suicide. And you just recognize the fact that we are all human. We all go through our trials and doesn’t really matter what you look like on the outside. We can go through things that are difficult and hard for us. That doesn’t matter as much as matters are we keep ongoing. Also on the other end, how many people are pretty practically I would call to say Disney Princess Syndrome, where they live a pretty good life, but they’re like, I want more.
[00:20:00.750] – Brett Dupree
That’s not bad either. I’m not dismissing it by calling it Disney Princess Syndrome. And just that idea of like, wow, you have a great life, but you want more. But thing is, you have a great life. But it’s not your life. It’s a life that was created for you without really your permission. And you’d rather do this instead. Listen to those people. Triumph has meant awesome. So I really appreciate everyone who’s been on my podcasts and been a guest on my podcast.
[00:20:26.460] – Brett Dupree
It’s been an honor for having each one, even the ones even the few that I’m like aren’t my favorite. I still value their time and effort. I feel really bad for one podcast that just was not good enough to go on the air, just the audio quality soccer story was great and I was really sad. But it was worse than Aleechea Pitts audio, which wasn’t the best. Or Julie Gray’s audio, which was too was also pretty bad.
[00:20:51.590] – Brett Dupree
This one was just unlistenable and he was really bad. Unfortunately, she didn’t. Re interview later, but I felt very bad because she spent her time and effort because that’s the thing about Zencastr sometimes they don’t sound the best. But when I listened to the post-production, it sounds fine. So I was hoping that every one of those times there’s been a lot of ups and downs on the joyous expansion podcast, more downs than ups.
[00:21:14.630] – Brett Dupree
In some ways when I talk about where I wanted to be in two years. But to be honest, I am very proud of what I’ve done. I’m very proud of what I’ve accomplished. And I’m very happy that I’ve done it. I do not regret it one bit.
[00:21:28.070] – Brett Dupree
I learned a lot about myself. I proved to myself that I can be consistent at something, even if it’s not going the way I planned. And then when I utilized that belief in pushing myself forward in other things that I want to do and also I can see the value in like I got to interview William Hung. And that was super cool. I never thought I would do that. The guy from American Idol, that was super cool. I never thought.
[00:21:53.660] – Brett Dupree
Yeah. So I have that memory forever and that podcast forever. But, you know, even the people who aren’t William Hung talking to Amanda Webster, who I did know is such a big deal and her story was just phenomenal. I think she’s going to become big someday. And a lot of the people. I think a few will become bigish someday, elite in their niche market. And they look great because they just have great stories. And I’m just honored for each person who’s really to share themselves and be vulnerable on my podcast. It’s just something special about being vulnerable and sharing yourself.
[00:22:25.430] – Brett Dupree
And that’s what I wanted my podcast to be. And I’m proud the fact that I got at least seventy one interviews with people where I try my best in doing that and I’m getting better and better and more and more people are showing themselves and who they are and being vulnerable with me and with the audience and especially a couple of interviews coming up. Which one person was just surprised? The near-death experience person as an interview its own about their near-death experience and every other podcast.
[00:22:57.320] – Brett Dupree
They talk about her near-death experience, and that’s where all the questions were. But mine is different. I talk about how it affected her life and before and after. And because I wouldn’t know the story of it. How. What did it do for her? And so that’s something I look forward to as well.
[00:23:11.870] – Brett Dupree
But that’s the difference between the Joyous Expansion Podcast and other podcasts is I care about you. The person I’m interviewing, I want to know about your life and what got you to where you are and wanting to get there. And I know that will serve the audience.
[00:23:27.650] – Brett Dupree
Be willing to suck. Go for it. The first step to being good at something is being bad at it. That’s what it was like when I started my podcast. I wasn’t good. And then I got better and better and better as I keep ongoing. You will build those skills. Have the right mindset. Look for ways to shift your mindset when things aren’t going the way you planned. There are no failures. Only learning experiences.
[00:23:55.880] – Brett Dupree
So when you look back constantly evaluate where you are. Learn from your successes. Learn from your quote-unquote failures. And push forward. Continue to learn. Continue to grow and continue to push. Sooner or later, you will get it. But most important is the personal growth along the way and who you become because you went for it. Whatever you’re going for, I’m proud of you.
[00:24:19.820] – Brett Dupree
Thank you all who have been a part of this journey with me. I truly appreciate all my listeners. I truly appreciate all my intervieweese. Haha old thing where I used to say that instead of guests because I forgot guests for like 50 episodes or forgot that word.
[00:24:38.010] – Brett Dupree
I’m thankful and grateful and I look forward to at least doing another 25 episodes of the Joyous Expansion podcast.